Taillon and Middle of the Road Starters at High A

A little a while ago I examined the high A stats of Pirate prospect Jameson Taillon against top 20 Baseball America pitching prospects. In the first post, I looked at players that I had judged to be top shelf, front of the rotation starters. How about other top 20 Baseball America pitching prospects that spent a few years as a starter in the Majors but never got ‘Ace’ status? How did they do at high A?

I plopped Taillon’s numbers in the middle of what I would consider to be two different types of starters. The top group is middle of the rotation guys. Then Taillon followed by bottom of the rotation guys.

As I noted in my previous post on this topic, I don’t pretend to know what all is going on with Taillon’s development (Fastball Academy and all). But I know that when I look at these numbers, I not enthused. He paled in comparison with the most of the guys who developed into front of the rotation starters. Josh Beckett, Yovani Gallardo, Brad Penny, Homer Bailey and even Kris Benson have better stats than what Taillon has accumulated. To me – based solely on the stats – he looks most like Gavin Floyd or maybe Matt Clement.

This doesn’t send me running for the Tylenol. But I’d feel much better if Taillon had put up numbers at high A that gave an indication that he was going to be a future ace. Based on what I’m seeing – and granted I’m certainly not seeing everything – I don’t feel confident that he will be a future MLB ace.

Name MLB Debut Year Age League W L ERA GS IP HR WHIP SO/9 SO/BB FIP
Josh Beckett 21 2001 21 FLO 6 0 1.23 12 65.2 0 0.716 13.8 6.73 0.79
Chad Billingsley 21 2004 19 FLO 7 4 2.35 18 92 6 1.272 10.9 2.27 3.30
A.J. Burnett 22 skipped A+
Yovani Gallardo 21 2006 20 FLO 6 3 2.09 13 77.2 4 0.991 11.9 4.48 2.25
Edwin Jackson 19 skipped A+
Scott Kazmir 20 2003-04 22 FLO 2 4 3.36 18 83 3 1.398 9.9 2.39 2.92
Mark Mulder 22 skipped A+
Brad Penny 22 1998 20 CAL 14 5 2.96 28 164 15 1.055 11.4 5.91 2.67
Ben Sheets 22 1999 20 CAL 1 0 3.58 5 27.2 1 1.337 9.1 2.00 3.27
Kerry Wood 21 1996 19 FLO 10 2 2.91 22 114.1 6 1.242 10.7 1.94 3.71
Jameson Taillon ?? 2012 20 FLO 6 6 3.82 22 120 8 1.158 7.1 2.64 3.53
Dylan Bundy ?? 2012 19 CAR 6 3 2.98 11 54.1 5 1.196 10.4 3.71 3.04
Name MLB Debut Year Age League W L ERA GS IP HR WHIP SO/9 SO/BB FIP
Homer Bailey 21 2006 20 FLO 3 5 3.31 13 70.2 6 1.005 10.1 3.59 3.17
Kris Benson 24 1997 22 CAR 5 2 2.58 10 59.1 1 1.045 10.9 5.54 1.74
J. Bonderman 20 2002 19 CAL/FLO 9 9 3.79 27 156.2 18 1.270 9.8 2.88 3.77
Bruce Chen 21 skipped A+
Matt Clement 23 1995-97 20-22 CAL 13 12 3.35 37 214.7 12 1.407 9.1 2.05 3.69
Gavin Floyd 21 2003 20 FLO 7 8 3.00 20 138 9 1.254 7.5 2.56 3.51
Philip Hughes 21 2005-06 19-20 FLO 4 3 2.27 9 47.2 0 0.699 9.7 8.50 1.69
F. Liriano 21 2003-04 19-20 CAL/FLO 6 8 4.28 22 117.2 6 1.428 9.6 2.78 2.83
Jeff Niemann 25 2002 22 CAL 0 1 3.98 5 20.1 3 1.082 12.4 2.8 4.15
Carl Pavano 22 1998 22 FLO 0 0 6.60 4 15 1 1.533 8.4 4.67 2.80
Mike Pelfrey 22 2006 22 FLO 2 1 1.64 4 22 1 0.864 10.6 13.0 1.84
Kip Wells 22 1999 22 CAR 5 6 3.57 14 85.2 4 1.307 10.0 2.79 2.95
Bobby Bradley - 2001 20 CAR 1 2 3.12 9 49.0 3 1.306 8.4 2.30 3.40

EDIT: Added Dylan Bundy’s numbers at high A for 2012 after seeing the comment from BlueBomber72 below.

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  • Lee Young

    7.1 K rate is the lowest of the bunch.

    • BlueBomber72

      I haven’t looked lately, but Dylan Bundy’s numbers look like they fit in very nicely with the top group. Spending money’s is great, but you still have to have the scouts that can make the correct evaluations.

      • szielinski

        No one questioned Taillon’s talent. No one questions it now.

        • http://www.facebook.com/james.vargo.35 James Vargo

          why not?

          • szielinski

            Because he sits in the mid-90s, has a superb curveball and a personality one can trust.

    • RandyLinville

      I would assume his low K/9 rate is a result of him throwing mostly gas. I would think it’d be tougher to whiff someone if they generally know what is coming.

      • Lee Young

        I hope you’re right

        • RandyLinville

          I hope he turns into a front of the rotation guy and that all of his numbers are skewed by the development process and not by a lack of talent/success/development.

  • buccotime57

    Manny manchado….

    • RandyLinville

      Dude, you are killing me…

      • buccotime57

        with every hit it he gets..i cringe with his first 19 AB..